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Old 09-20-2017, 11:15 AM   #11
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It's stupid on helix because I used to be able to cast it on gcd now I'm being forced to load a spell I otherwise would never mem while fighting undead. Now I'll be better ft just using hammer of the war machine on live and undead
Shit, thats a good point... we could weave helix between spells on its' CD... now at the mercy of spell GCD
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:19 PM   #12
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Shit, thats a good point... we could weave helix between spells on its' CD... now at the mercy of spell GCD
Pallies are the ones that are really screwed by it, but we both took a hit.

I usually have demand up cause I only raid anymore and so aura does stack in my groups cause i have wars, and no other sk most the time so alliance is useless. But I only use it when the buff is waring off and only on adds, which makes it still a downgrade.

Also something to look at is the soul flay can hurt us at times being always on, hello Vault raid!

This patch all around is a shitfeast!
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:34 AM   #13
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Damn I could feel the mitigation changes last night on our raid. I died a ton more than usual. Clerics were talking about it too! I feel sorry for the guilds that dont have eok done.
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:41 PM   #14
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I don't understand the rationale for the snare and helix changes.

Before the patch, I used a Snare hotkey that went:

1. /alt activate Bony Grasp of Death
2. /alt activate Helix
3. /alt activate Encroaching Darkness

On undead mobs, it would cast the instant snare, then slow (off GCD).
On live mobs, it would just snare with darkness.

I could use this hotkey on every mob, whether I was tanking or DPSing.

After the patch, hitting my Encroaching Darkness AA will only snare. In order to slow, I have to cast challenge, which comes with aggro over time that I may not be interested in.

How is the change better? If it's not better, but a needed nerf because it was unbalancing the game, what was the unbalance?

Just looking to understand what the upside is for this change, either for SKs or for the game...
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Old 09-22-2017, 08:31 AM   #15
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Less buttons to mash, and I'm okay with that. However I wish they had tied helix with something with instant cast, such as terrors, even better would be to make impose instant cast.

I'm still wondering why some are using aura over impose? I always run impose, and torrent of misery for the group.

ETA: never raid only in personal 4box so my needs are a bit different than most everyone else

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Old 09-22-2017, 11:58 PM   #16
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I'm still wondering why some are using aura over impose?
Aura? What spell is this?

I always use Impose
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Old 09-23-2017, 08:48 AM   #17
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If I'm grouped with wars I dont use aura, otherwise I do.

Impose I only use on raids, not even memmed in groups
I'm assuming aura of pain line, last in the line being torrent of misery.
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:57 PM   #18
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No more full mana bar from thought leech.
Got one today:

[Sat Sep 23 15:19:00 2017] You begin casting Thought Leech VII.
[Sat Sep 23 15:19:00 2017] Ikrog hit a Syldon neophyte for 747500 points of non-melee damage.
[Sat Sep 23 15:19:00 2017] Ikrog delivers a critical blast! (747500)
[Sat Sep 23 15:19:00 2017] You deliver a critical blast! (747500)
[Sat Sep 23 15:19:00 2017] Ikrog hit a Syldon neophyte for 747500 points of non-melee damage.
[Sat Sep 23 15:19:00 2017] Ikrog delivers a critical blast! (747500)
[Sat Sep 23 15:19:00 2017] You deliver a critical blast! (747500)

Full mana bar from only like 10% (the reason I fired it right then)
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